Rose/Bill ARkansas check 'international ecoomic experience becaue of economic develpoment efforts'

Bill Clinton: Yeah. But I have been doing it for a very long time. And I had also had extensive international economic experience because of my economic development efforts.

There are a lot of people who honestly believe what you have done for other people in your public life --

Charlie Rose: Or your private life.

Bill Clinton: Is completely irrelevant, but what matters is what you symbolize.

Charlie Rose: And you don't.

Bill Clinton: No, I don't. I don't based on not only the good things we did when I was president, but the challenges I faced even with the experiences that I had. I think she's -- for this moment in time, significantly better qualified, Hillary is, to be president --

Charlie Rose: Because her preparation is significantly better than --

Bill Clinton: Than mine was.

Charlie Rose: Than yours was.

Bill Clinton: Yes.

Charlie Rose: And if this is between --

Bill Clinton: And because of what she's achieved in working with Republicans as well as Democrats in the Senate, and security and the work she's done in healthcare. She and John McCain took skeptical Republicans to the northern most village in Norway to see what's happening on global warming, to the northern most American town, Port Barrel -- Point Barrow, Alaska. We now have a bipartisan majority of the US Senate set a limit on carbon emissions, to put America back in the forefront of this change. And I think it's critical to our economic future. She did that. And I think she played a role in that. I think that matters. I think those kinds of things matter.

Charlie Rose: What is happening --

Bill Clinton: But the voters are entitled to say they don't


One is, a lot of the Republicans running don't have particularly good credentials with the far right, and they're so really important in the primary process. So they're trying to make up for their lack of credentials by dumping on her. If you notice, almost no Republican senators have criticized her. They like her because they do things with her, they think she's an honorable person, they think she's a good person. Senator Lindsey Graham was one of the managers of my impeachment, wrote the tribute to her in -- when Newsweek or Time or whatever talked about the best young senators, first term senators. That -- those attacks affect independent voters who are very smart on the issues but don't like politics. They think you become polarizing when someone else attacks you. And she is not in a position to answer back what the Republicans are doing in the primary, not right now. So I think that has had a, you know, has not been good. And that's the second reason the Republicans are doing it. They think -- I know because I talk to a lot of them who are candid with me. They think she would be the hardest to beat because she has been vetted and because she consistently does better with Republicans as they get to know her and see what's she's done. So that's what's happening in New Hampshire. In Iowa, nobody wants to go negative on television, so really it's a war underneath the radar screen and it's -- has more to do with how the press interprets it than anything else. But most people are -- she was doing -- what broke her momentum there was the extraordinary attention given to her not very great answer on the driver's license for illegal immigrants.
Bill Clinton: The new leaders of Northern Ireland came to Washington to see the president. They -- it represents a stunning change. I think everybody we met, right, stunning change in Northern Ireland.

Charlie Rose: It's unbelievable.

Bill Clinton: And they asked to see another person. They asked to see Hillary, because she played and independent role in their peace process when I was president, independent of me.

leads to Hillary in ARk and previous

Once in Arkansas, she immediately founded a legal aid clinic and then went to work organizing the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families. As First Lady of Arkansas, she traveled around the state working toward change in education, healthcare and women’s rights.

she set up the first environmental task for. Wal-mart is now seen as the leading retailer in green stores, and praised by greanpeace for their work in this regard. That task force Hillary set up is considered to have fostered that ethic.

Bill Clinton re Obama's Iraq war record, with cites

Earlier this month, President Clinton questioned Sen. Obama’s Iraq War Record:

It is wrong that Senator Obama got to go through 15 debates trumpeting his superior judgment and how he had been against the war in every year, enumerating the years, and never got asked one time, not once, well, how could you say that when you said in 2004 you didn’t know how you would have voted on the resolution, you said in 2004 there was no difference between you and George Bush on the war, and you took that speech you’re now running on off your Web site in 2004, and there’s no difference in your voting record and Hillary’s ever since.

President Clinton’s statements are confirmed by the facts. In 2004, Sen. Obama said he didn’t know how he would have voted on the Iraq War resolution.

‘When asked about Senators Kerry and Edwards’ votes on the Iraq war, Obama said, “I’m not privy to Senate intelligence reports,’ Mr. Obama said. ‘What would I have done? I don’t know. What I know is that from my vantage point the case was not made.’

In 2004, Sen. Obama also said there was little difference between his position and George Bush’s position on Iraq:

In a meeting with Chicago Tribune reporters at the Democratic National Convention, Obama said, “On Iraq, on paper, there’s not as much difference, I think, between the Bush administration and a Kerry administration as there would have been a year ago. […] There’s not much of a difference between my position and George Bush’s position at this stage.” [Chicago Tribune, 07/27/04]

While running for Senate, Sen. Obama acknowledged that he took his anti-war speech off his campaign website, calling it “dated”:

Specifically, State Senator Obama maintains that an October 2002 anti-war speech was removed from his campaign web site because “the speech was dated once the formal phase of the war was over, and my staff’s desire to continually provide fresh news clips.”

Finally, Sen. Obama and Hillary do have almost identical voting records on Iraq:

In fact, Obama’s Senate voting record on Iraq is nearly identical to Clinton’s. Over the two years Obama has been in the Senate, the only Iraq-related vote on which they differed was the confirmation earlier this year of General George Casey to be Chief of Staff of the Army, which Obama voted for and Clinton voted against. [ABC News, 5/17/07]

Good smooth summary of Alice Palmer ballot clearing story

Take a look at this excerpt from a story from the Chicago Tribune:

(newser) – Barack Obama showed his acumen for sharp-elbowed politics early on, according to a report in the Tribune. The 2008 hopeful, famous for his affable and earnest optimism, launched his career in an old-fashioned Chicagoan way, by pushing a former political mentor off a ballot, He won "not by leveling the playing field, but by clearing it," the report says. • Alice Palmer, a South-Side Democrat, appointed Obama heir apparent to her state senate seat; when the two found themselves seeking the same nomination, Obama challenged her signatures, successfully purging her, and three other competitors, from the ballot. Remembering the incident, Obama is elegantly evasive: " If you can win, you should win and get to work doing the people's business." NOTE THIS LAST LINE.

Fresh from his work as a civil rights lawyer and head of a voter registration project that expanded access to the ballot box, Obama launched his first campaign for the Illinois Senate saying he wanted to empower disenfranchised citizens.

But in that initial bid for political office, Obama quickly mastered the bare-knuckle arts of Chicago electoral politics. His overwhelming legal onslaught signaled his impatience to gain office, even if that meant elbowing aside an elder stateswoman like Palmer.

A close examination of Obama's first campaign clouds the image he has cultivated throughout his political career: The man now running for president on a message of giving a voice to the voiceless first entered public office not by leveling the playing field, but by clearing it.

One of the candidates he eliminated, long-shot contender Gha-is Askia, now says that Obama's petition challenges belied his image as a champion of the little guy and crusader for voter rights.

"Why say you're for a new tomorrow, then do old-style Chicago politics to remove legitimate candidates?" Askia said. "He talks about honor and democracy, but what honor is there in getting rid of every other candidate so you can run scot-free? Why not let the people decide?"

I don't mind the ruthlessness (any Democrat will need it), just the holier than thou cover-up.

-- Linda-english
[Read Linda-english's other letters]

Good info on Clinton admin vs Reagan: economics, civil rights, etc

Much good well-researched info here about Clinton admin vs Reagan, on economics, civil rights, etc.

President Clinton signed the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993, “which passed Congress without a single Republican vote.”
It raised taxes on the wealthiest 1.2% of taxpayers,[35] while cutting taxes for 15 million low-income families and making tax cuts available to 90% of small businesses.[36] Additionally, it mandated that the budget be balanced over a number of years, through the implementation of spending restraints.

This is what balanced the budget, created a surplus, and began paying off the National Debt. (See graph at the top of my blog: the high blue peak is the Clinton years, 1990's.) Even after the GOP took congress back, they could never quite overturn this: Clinton kept vetoing them.

From the New York Times editorial page on March 21, 1988:
Ronald Reagan appears determined to go down in history as a President who sought actively to set back the cause of civil rights. How else can one read his veto of the four-year, bipartisan effort to restore the reach of antidiscrimination laws narrowed by a Supreme Court ruling? Congress appears to have the votes to override the veto. Decency argues for doing so, without delay. […]